Cardo Packtalk Edge review: confusing at first, then you forget it's there
The Cardo Packtalk Edge feels complicated at first, but with DMC and voice control it works brilliantly. Here is how it behaves in practice, and where it falls short.
I ride with the Cardo Packtalk Edge in my helmet, and my summary is short: it works very well, but it does everything it can to seem complicated at first.
This is a review of how it actually behaves day to day, not a walkthrough of the spec sheet.
The beginning is rough
The first period with the Packtalk Edge it felt difficult and messy. There are many menus, many ways to do the same thing, and an app that does not make it obvious what belongs with what.
It gave me the feeling that I had bought something needlessly complicated.
That is not true, but it takes a while before you understand that. Expect it to feel harder than it is for the first few weeks, and expect to sit down once with the app and configure everything properly rather than learning it on the go out on the road.
Voice is the only sensible way to control it
This is the most important insight, and the one that changed everything for me.
Stop trying to control it with the buttons. With gloves on, at speed, that is not a good experience. Voice control, on the other hand, is what it is built for, and once you have accepted that the whole unit becomes a different product.
You say what you want and it happens. No hunting around, no guessing which button does what, no risk of pressing the wrong thing and ending a call instead of raising the volume.
But there is one major caveat: you have to say exactly the right command.
Saying something that means the right thing is not enough. If you say "play music" nothing happens, because the command is "music on". That is how the whole system works. It is a fixed list of phrases, not something that understands what you mean.
What makes it worse is that you get no feedback whatsoever. Say "hey Cardo" and you get no confirmation that it is listening. Say the wrong command after that and you get no error message either. It just goes completely silent, and you are left wondering whether it heard you, whether you said it wrong, or whether something has broken.
That is why the first few weeks feel so much worse than they need to. The silence gives you nothing to learn from.
Solve it by reading through the command list once properly and learning the five or six phrases you actually use. After that, voice control works excellently.
If I could give one single piece of advice to someone who has just bought a Packtalk Edge it would be this: learn the exact voice commands first, the buttons later.
DMC is where it shines
Carl and I always ride in a DMC group, and that is the mode where the system does exactly what it promises.
The group connects automatically when we come within range and drops just as automatically when someone rides too far away. You do not have to do anything. No pairing every time, no button pressing at the roadside, no one left out.
The range is also genuinely long. We have been considerably further apart than I would have expected and still been able to talk without any problems.
This is the whole reason to buy a Cardo instead of a cheaper Bluetooth system.
And where it does not shine: Bluetooth guests
Once we rode with a third person who connected via Bluetooth instead of DMC. It worked considerably worse, and it is worth understanding why.
He was paired to Carl, not to the group. His entire connection therefore ran through Carl, which produces a result that sounds absurd when you describe it:
He was riding next to me, and still dropped out of the conversation when Carl pulled ahead.
It did not matter that the two of us were just a few metres apart. His link went to Carl, and when that link stretched too far he was gone for both of us. Carl and I could keep talking as normal, because we were on the DMC mesh.
On top of that there was a lot of trouble getting the connection working in the first place, and he sounded noticeably worse than Carl did.
The conclusion is simple: as long as everyone is on DMC it works excellently. The moment someone joins via Bluetooth the audio quality drops, and that person is stuck in a single link that determines whether they are heard or not, regardless of where they actually are.
If you ride in groups regularly it is worth making sure everyone has compatible units.
Music sounds worse than you hope
This is my clearest objection.
I rarely listen to music on it, because the sound quality simply is not enough. Mixed with wind noise at speed it becomes muddy, and turning up the volume does not help.
Speech is a completely different matter. Voices come through clearly even at higher speeds, and that is where the unit is at its best. It is also what I use it for.
You should buy a Packtalk Edge to talk, not to listen to music. Seen that way, it delivers fully.
There is a 45 mm JBL speaker set you can upgrade to, which is supposed to sound better than the 40 mm speakers it comes with. I have not tried it, so I cannot say how big the difference actually is. But I find it hard to believe that a few extra millimetres will suddenly produce a bass register that is not there today. The problem is just as much the wind noise and the helmet as the speakers themselves.
The practical stuff
The mount is magnetic and holds securely. The unit switches on and off with one hand, even with gloves.
The battery lasts a full day of riding without me having to think about it, and it charges via USB-C. It handles rain, and updates arrive wirelessly without plugging anything in.
What I think
When everything is configured and you have learned how it wants to be controlled, the Packtalk Edge is a unit you essentially stop thinking about. It just exists.
What is good:
- The DMC group connects and disconnects completely automatically
- The range is genuinely long
- Voice control actually works, even with gloves, once you know the phrases
- Clear speech even at high speed
- Magnetic mount, all-day battery and rain resistant
What bothers me:
- Feels needlessly complicated for the first few weeks
- Voice commands must be said word for word, and you get no response at all when you say the wrong thing
- Button control is the weak point, voice is the answer
- Bluetooth guests sound worse and are stuck in a single link
- Music quality is not enough at speed
Honestly though, I think it is too expensive. Given how poor the music sounds, the price tag is hard to justify when you weigh it against what you actually get.
The problem is that it does not matter much. There are no real competitors. If you want the best available today this is it, and Cardo has essentially no one challenging them at what DMC does.
The only obvious alternative is the Packtalk Pro, and it adds too little that is new to be worth the step up for me.
So this is not an enthusiastic recommendation. It is a matter-of-fact one: it costs too much, and you will buy it anyway, because there is nothing better.
Rating: 4 out of 5
The fifth star falls on music quality, and really only on that.
Everything else it does well or very well. But a unit in this price range should be able to play music decently at speed, and it cannot. The fact that a 45 mm speaker set is available as an add-on does not change the rating for me. The sound should be up to standard in the condition the product is sold in.
If you want to talk with the people you ride with, this is a five. If you also want to listen to music, it becomes a four.
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